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Bill Carmichael: Brutal truths about protest

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Published Date: 17 April 2009
THE female protester allegedly assaulted by a police officer during the G20 protests is said to be "traumatised" by the incident.

Poor love! She sounds a delicate flower, doesn't she? Strolling alone minding her own business in the City of London when suddenly she was struck down by the jackboot of the fascist police state.

Er... well, perhaps not. The marvellous thing about
all this video footage that is swilling about on the internet is that truth cuts both ways – and often it dispels the myths on both sides.

Take a few moments to look at the video and a strikingly different picture emerges from the propaganda being put out by the protesters and their friends at the BBC and left-wing newspapers.

Instead of the sanitised version of injured innocence, what you'll see is an aggressive-looking young woman – as
yet unidentified – hat pulled down over her eyes, mouthing obscenities into the face of a police officer, who is trying to ignore her.

After several minutes of this he snaps and slaps her with the back of his hand with the words: "Go away."

She doesn't and she continues to hurl abuse. At which point he draws his baton and belts her on the legs.

If anyone ever deserved a good slap, this woman certainly did.

Instead of being suspended and investigated, I believe the officer involved should be commended for his forbearance.

Sadly, the world doesn't work like that. The woman involved is reported to have engaged Max Clifford to sell her story to the newspapers and it can't be long before the inevitable claim for compensation is submitted.

She'll get her 15 minutes of fame and a few quid. Celebrity Big Brother here she comes. Being belted by a policeman is probably the best career move she's ever made. Clifford has a gap in his portfolio where Jade Goody used to sit, so no doubt he'll be marketing his new recruit as "The People's Crusty".

To be serious for a moment, unnecessary violence by the police cannot be acceptable and if any officer is found to have broken the law – including the aforementioned G20 officers – they should face the consequences.

If this young woman behaved like that in any city centre on a Saturday night, she would be lucky to escape with a full set of teeth, but – quite rightly – we hold our police to higher standards.

And, of course, the death of Ian Tomlinson – who wasn't a demonstrator but who has been raised to status of martyr by the activists – should be properly investigated.

But it is worth putting this into a bit of context.

In the run-up to the G20 summit the protesters were threatening extreme violence and boasting they would be hanging bank workers from lamp posts.

It is important to grasp that the whole point of these demonstrations is the violence. They are the middle-class equivalent of the football ruck. That's why from Seattle, to Copenhagen, to Melbourne, to Davos, to Genoa, to London, not one of these protests has been peaceful.

Clearly the police had to take these threats seriously. To do otherwise would be a dereliction of duty.

The policing of the G20 protests was robust – and hugely successful.

There were remarkably few serious injuries and besides the routine trashing of the Royal Bank of Scotland, very little damage.

Now Met Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson has ordered a review into the policing of large demonstrations.

Fair enough if lessons can be learned – but the police shouldn't abandon successful tactics because of the
whingeing of a few professional malcontents.

The last thing we want is for officers to be required to deal with violence with one hand tied behind their backs.





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Ian Marsden,

Leeds 17/04/2009 10:16:21
Not only is this article poorly written, Bill Carmichael peculiarly openly displays his own prejudices whilst pretending to be balanced! I'm sorry but I do not think a police officer has the right to hit someone with a baton- let alone a small woman- just because they are being annoying. As you say we expect higher standards of the police than drunken thugs. Also, why was the officer's ID number covered-up, what reason could there be other than he fancied 'cracking some skulls'?

He also portrays the protestors as being out to cause trouble. How many people out of over 20,000 were arrested? It is was around 100. The way Carmichael portrays it, every single protestor was intent on razing the City to the ground. What about the peaceful protestors at the Climate Camp, who were set upon by riot police. It is widely documented across the media that there had been no provocation, or violence there. And if you're still convinced that they were just a bunch of 'lefties' who brought it on themselves, what about the Countryside Alliance protests a few years back? Peaceful, Middle Englanders were attacked by police- did they bring on themselves too?

Oh, and for the record I do not agree with many of the causes the protestors were demonstrating for but I do believe in the right to protest.
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Johnt Davidson,

Leeds 17/04/2009 13:28:04
I took your advice and looked at the whole video. I saw a man assaulted by a police officer as he tried to leave the 'kettle'. I saw a young woman remonstrate about this, I saw her pushed back into the press pack where she was standing. I saw her bravely continue to remonstrate with the police officer for pushing a woman, I saw her smacked in the face with reinforced gloves, she was clearly shocked and angered and called the police officer 'scum', I then saw her smacked with a baton. She was holding a carton of orange and a camera in her hands, hardly in a position to attack back or defend herself. I did not however see 'several minutes' of abuse being hurled, the whole video lasts less than several minutes, she is protesting police aggresion, not randomly insulting the unidentified officer. Bill, you say she 'deserved a good slap,' under what other circumstance do women who weigh 6 and a half stone and are 5 ft tall deserve a good slap? It would be interesting to know. How do you define a 'good slap'? I was at the protest and saw members of the press attacked as well as protesters and bystanders. I have made a formal complaint to the IPCC. You suggest we were all looking for trouble, no we were not, but the police made sure trouble occurred. I know you are hired to be 'controversial' but come on, drop the stuff about deserving good slaps, it makes you sound rather unwholesome.
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Steve G Jones,

17/04/2009 19:39:18
Good heavens - what is this article. Some attempt to grab the all-Yorkshire violent misogyny prize from Geoff Boycott? Let's, for the moment, leave aside the interpretation of the video. I'd hoped never to have read lines like these in a reputable newspaper

"If anyone ever deserved a good slap, this woman certainly did"

"If this young woman behaved like that in any city centre on a Saturday night, she would be lucky to escape with a full set of teeth, but – quite rightly – we hold our police to higher standards."

Well I have news for you - it's not considered legal for anybody, policeman or not, to belt somebody just for verbal abuse. The police are not being held to a higher standard - that rule applies to everybody.

Now I'm no fan of the sort of grim-face, pre-packaged feminist view that men are the always the aggressors, and women are the victims. A mindset which Jacqui Smith appears to believe, but heavens above. Neanderthal journalism (with apologies to Neanderthals) of this sort makes that a precious difficult argument to fight. This piece of pavement excrement masquerading as an article should have been consigned straight into the bin.

Now hopefully the inquiry will get to the bottom of this, but what I did see for sure is a five foot woman who was angry after being back-handed across the face by a policeman. He, in turn, hit her with a stick (and also didn't have his serial number on display). As for mouthing obscenities - that is pure speculation, although I think we can agree she wasn't wishing him a good morning.

Yes - and I know, I'm not accusing all Yorkshire men of being misogynists or violent before anybody takes me to task...
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Jemilla,

London 18/04/2009 15:34:48
This is disgusting journalism practice.
Why does this man still have a job?

This man was not there, this "article" has come out of his fascist OPINIONS and a short video clip.

How can a man be getting paid a decent wage to sit at a "news" desk, whilling the time away looking at youtube clips and writing what he THINKS.

Journalism is objective truth, where is that in this?

This man should be allowed to work in a system that at its core is aimed to bring people the truth, it scares me that there are people like this on the planet- that cannot see things objectively, and that can actually justify the vile attacks on people that day.

Did the Yorkshire Post send him to London that day to get genuine reports? Nope. So he didn't see it for himself. He wasn't there, and he has no idea what had caused that woman to APPARENTLY "shout at the policeman" . How about she was kettled in for hours against her will, how about something could have been wrong and she needed to get out? But they wouldn't let her- an abuse of her human rights.

The next time, Bill, you decide to air your vile and backward opinion- please please please can you actually do your job as an apparent Journalist and get first hand experience and knowledge?

How about you put yourself in the position that woman was in and see what your opinion is then?

Because as someone that was there, and saw these things for myself I can genuinely say that what happened to all the innocent YES innocent protesters was illegal. Violent attacks are illegal, and as a result a man has died.

Also I would just like to say that nobody was planning on burning bankers! Are you kidding? Those were effigies. Fake images to portray the point that these people are at the core of the problem of climate change, capitalism and the distribution of wealth- that is causing the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.

This is disgusting, this man should not be part of a system that aims to bring the 'truth' t
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Looog,

Leeds 19/04/2009 01:45:16
Having read a few of Bill Carmichael's columns I soon came to the conclusion that they amounted to the so-bad-they're-almost-risible ravings of a 'hateful bigot'. But I really took offence to this latest offering. That such neanderthal, misogynistic bile was allowed to be published in the Yorkshire Post is deeply disturbing. Whereas Bill seems determined to make light of the situation, we can only hope the Met take this assualt as seriously as the other cases which have already been referred to the IPCC, and that their inquiries will be free of such Carmichaelian notions of 'justice'. Another (longer) clip on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V23PGWd46MM&feature=channel_page
also captures the incident (at about 3mins 10), and shows the officer in question - his serial number deliberately obscured - milling about just moments before the assault took place - rubbishing Carmichael's claim that the woman abuses the officer for 'several minutes' before he finally 'snaps'. I have to agree with Chris Huhne, quoted in the Guardian today, when he states "there's only one motive for a police officer disguising his identity and that's because he thinks he's going to be doing something reprehensible." And I wholeheartedly agree with blogger Tiberius Leodis' point (http://tiberiusleodis.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/bad-bill/) that regardless of any verbal provocation or annoyance on the part of this short, slender young female (who can clearly be seen to be holding a drinks carton in one hand and a camera in the other - thus highly unlikely to pose any actual physical threat) the officer had no legal grounds for slapping her and then, in quick succession, striking her with a baton. He should be severely reprimanded for his actions.
As for Mr.Carmichael, his comments have annoyed and provoked me. But (perhaps rather unfortunately) this would not justify my beating him with a big stick.
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Living free,

Leeds 19/04/2009 10:24:09
Who let this rabid, right wing misogynist out of the loony bin? Good grief man, get a grip on reality. All women should be +very+ concerned about your attitudes, & I hope that your wife & daughters don't read the nonsense you spew out. It's bad enough the public are faced with this garbage. Where is the editor's mind at for not pulling this hate column: when does anyone (especially a woman, perhaps?) ever deserve violence. The police involved is dressed in body armour, with weapons, gauntletted and is much bigger than the victim he assaulted - isn't violence against women a hate crime? Isn't supporting a hate crime part of the same criminal pattern? Perhaps the good people of Yorkshire should consider applying for an ASBO against this malcontent Carmichael - he certainly causes harm, distress and alarm, supports criminal behaviour and supports hate crimes. This is even before the absolute factual rubbish he is spouting.

I am seriously reconsidering whether I will ever be subscribing to this "news" paper again, and may well take it upon myself to write to the advertisers who pay for this filth to be printed to advise tham of (a) my decision not to read the paper and (b) that there is this bigot who is writing sexist, violence-encouraging, loathesome garbage that they are paying for and that they may want to consider their position relative to supporting this paper or be tarred with the same brush. I would strongly encourage others who feel similarly about this Carmichael's article to take it upon themselves to write to some of the bigger advertisers. Comapnies in this day and age do not like to be associated with the likes of Carmichael and his misogynistic, pro-thuggery attitudes.

Shame on you Carmichael.
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StevePWales,

Gwynedd 21/04/2009 14:15:01
I'd like to mouth off at Bill Carmichael, but I won't for fear that he'll assume that means he has the right to beat me.
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TJ Hatton,

London 22/04/2009 00:03:02
Having seen the footage of Ian Tomlinson filmed shortly before his death, I couldn’t help but think to myself what on earth could have prompted a police officer to shove a man to the ground who was posing no threat whatsoever to public safety, a man who was simply walking on his way home from work.

Then I read Mr Carmichael’s shockingly bigoted and blinkered perspective regarding police behaviour during the G20 summit, and the answer began to emerge: there are still some people in this world who believe the police have the unfettered right to assault members of the public with impunity.

He may be incapable of expressing rational thought, but thank goodness Mr Carmichael is a journalist and not a police officer, or else we would have undoubtedly witnessed further acts of gratuitous violence on our streets.
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