Cameron mulls more powers for Scots after Sturgeon summit

David Cameron met Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon at Bute House in Edinburgh.
David Cameron met Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon at Bute House in Edinburgh.
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DAVID Cameron has said he does not rule out making further changes to new powers that are planned for Scotland if “sensible suggestions” are made.

The Prime Minister said there would be a fresh look at plans to give Holyrood powers over welfare, to make sure that these reflect the agreement reached by the cross-party Smith Commission.

David Cameron met Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon at Bute House in Edinburgh.

David Cameron met Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon at Bute House in Edinburgh.

He spoke out after meeting face-to-face with Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon for the first time since last week’s general election, which saw the Conservatives win a unexpected majority across the UK.

But they only have one MP north of the border while the SNP swept the board, claiming 56 of the 59 constituencies up for grabs north of the border.

Holyrood’s Devolution Committee said yesterday that the current plans to transfer more power north failed to meet both “the spirit or the substance’’ of the Smith Agreement

Mr Cameron said his government would “make sure it really is Smith” adding: “We’re going to look again at welfare and make sure the clauses reflect what that agreement was.”

David Cameron met Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon at Bute House in Edinburgh.

David Cameron met Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon at Bute House in Edinburgh.

He added: “The First Minister wants to send some proposals for me to look at and I’m happy to examine proposals, there’s going to be a debate, of course there will be a debate.

“I don’t rule out making other changes if sensible suggestions are made.”

While Mr Cameron appears open to considering further powers for Scotland, he said he did not believe a second independence referendum was “remotely on the cards”.

He spoke out after a senior source within the SNP was reported to have said it would be prepared to push ahead with plans for such a vote without the permission of the Prime Minister if necessary.

But the Conservative leader said: “I don’t think this is remotely on the cards, I tend to take at face value what Alex Salmond says on the record, rather than off the record.

“On the record, he said that this was a once-in-a-generation, potentially a once-in-a-lifetime, opportunity and I’m sticking with that.”

He spoke to journalists after having talks with Ms Sturgeon at her official residence of Bute House in Edinburgh.

Ms Sturgeon said the meeting was “constructive and businesslike”.

“Two things of significance were agreed at the meeting,” she told Sky News.

“Firstly, there was a commitment from the Prime Minister that the legislation that they will shortly introduce to the Westminster parliament to implement the proposals of the Smith Commission will implement those proposals in full.

“We had a report of a Scottish Parliament committee yesterday which said that where they have got to thus far doesn’t fully implement the Smith Commission proposals.

“So, there is a commitment to do that, and we will make sure that happens.

“Secondly, I have said we will put forward proposals for devolution further than the Smith Commission proposals.

“The Prime Minister has said they would consider those proposals.

“I am not going to put words in his mouth and say he has agreed any specific proposals, but there is an agreement to look at that and there will be a meeting with Deputy First Minister and the Secretary of State for Scotland to take that discussion forward.

“I want Scotland to have full fiscal autonomy, David Cameron doesn’t, but what we said in our manifesto was that there were priority powers over and above the Smith Commission that we wanted to see devolved.

“So, what we are talking about are business taxes and employment legislation, the minimum wage and more powers over welfare.”

Ms Sturgeon said she still advocates full fiscal autonomy despite the oil price crash which would leave Scotland with a large deficit.

“I recognise that even if there was an agreement to move to full fiscal autonomy, which there is not, that would take time to do,” she said.

“As a priority, I want to get our hands on the levers that really matter as quickly as possible.”

Deputy First Minister John Swinney, who was also at the meeting, said today that the Scottish National Party will consider putting plans for another independence referendum in its election manifesto for Holyrood next year.

Ms Sturgeon told Sky News: “I said to him on the phone last Friday and I have said it to him again today, he has a choice to make about how he responds to how Scotland voted last week.

“He can act as if it is business as usual and nothing has changed, and people will draw their own conclusions from that.

“They will think that Westminster isn’t capable of listening or responding.

“Or he can prove that Westminster does listen, it does respond, it can deliver a better deal for Scotland.”

Mr Cameron said he had had a “very positive meeting” with the SNP leader.

“I’ve always said I believe in the respect agenda, and I think coming to Scotland just over a week after the election result is the right thing to do,” he stated.

He confirmed he would meet his election pledge to include a bill on more powers for Holyrood in his first Queen’s Speech.

The Conservative leader said: “I made a commitment before the election, if I was the Prime Minister I would implement the Smith Commission report in full by introducing a Scotland Bill in the first Queen’s Speech and I can confirm that is exactly what I will do.

“It was an agreement made in Scotland for Scotland by the Scottish parties and I’ll make sure we implement every aspect of it.

“That will build a Scottish Parliament that doesn’t just look after the vital issues of health and education and those devolved matters, but it will give real power over taxation and spending, so if Scotland wants to take different decisions about how much money to spend, what taxes to raise, it will be able to do so, and I think that’s the right future for Scotland.”

The Scottish Parliament is already due to get some power over income tax in April 2016, as a result of changes to the devolution settlement made by the Tory-Liberal Democrat coalition government.

But the Smith Commission called for far greater powers over income tax to be handed over, along with some control over benefits and welfare north of the border.

Mr Cameron stressed however that he did not support SNP demands for full fiscal autonomy, which would make the Scottish Parliament responsible for raising all the money it spends.

He said: “I don’t support full fiscal autonomy. I put it like this - Scotland has voted to stay part of the United Kingdom and I’m delighted about that. I think there are two potential futures, the future I would offer and I think many others would offer is a much stronger Scottish Parliament with these tax and spending powers and with the extra powers Smith talks about, but also with the solidarity of the United Kingdom.

“I want people in Scotland to know that the whole of the United Kingdom stands behind your pensions, stands behind unemployment benefit, will stand behind Scotland if it has a difficult year, if the oil price goes down.

“That’s what I believe in, the solidarity union as well as the United Kingdom that’s about defence and foreign affairs and all the institutions we have built together.

“I think the option of full fiscal autonomy is not a good option for Scotland inside the United Kingdom, I think it would land Scottish taxpayers with £7 billion of extra taxes or Scottish people with £7 billion of extra cuts.”

He continued: “I believe in the solidarity that’s at the heart of our United Kingdom.

“So it’s an honest disagreement between the First Minister and me about this, but we will deliver the stronger Scottish Parliament, be in no doubt about it.”